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#158644 - 02/05/2003 10:32 Technologically advanced Urinals!
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 970
Loc: Manassas VA

Unbelievable....
nice to see technology moving or should I say flowing in the right direction!
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#158645 - 02/05/2003 10:36 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: lopan]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
grumble grumble Quicktime grumble grumble
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#158646 - 02/05/2003 10:46 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: lopan]
fusto
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Registered: 27/12/2001
Posts: 504
Loc: Lummi Island, WA
Thats brilliant!

Almost equals the empeg in terms of ingenuity.
Practicality however...
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#158647 - 02/05/2003 10:53 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: tonyc]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
the windows media version is here.

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#158648 - 02/05/2003 10:53 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: lopan]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
There's something unsettling about seeing the girls getting to try out the system with the little makeshift demonstrator device. Not sure why.

I wouldn't want to be the repair guy when the sensor array malfunctions.
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#158649 - 02/05/2003 10:55 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: djc]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
the windows media version is here.
grumble grumble windows media grumble grumble.
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#158650 - 02/05/2003 10:57 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: tfabris]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
hey, the best compromises tend to be the ones where both sides are equally unhappy.

--dan.

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#158651 - 02/05/2003 11:01 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: djc]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Hey, I can't watch either one! Wheeee!
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#158652 - 02/05/2003 11:03 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: djc]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
I've just noticed that all three of the most popular online video formats are proprietary, and in addition, all suck in their own way, thus making them all equally undesirable.

If I were king of the world, I'd make everyone post all media in MPEG format, then everyone could choose whatever player they wanted.
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#158653 - 02/05/2003 11:05 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: tfabris]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
amen.

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#158654 - 02/05/2003 11:08 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I've noticed that for the last many years.

In all reality, Quicktime was fairly open until it effectively became Sorenson-only. And Real sorta-kinda tries to make a Unix player available for a good number of platforms (though I think the most recent Solaris one is RP8 and it's even harder to find than the link to RealPlayer Basic). Real video truly sucks, though.
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#158655 - 02/05/2003 11:10 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
I've noticed that for the last many years.
I was using poor grammar to express the idea. What I meant to say was that "I just wanted to point out that I've noticed..."
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#158656 - 02/05/2003 11:13 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Now I've done it. I wasn't saying anything about your grammar. I was agreeing and adding more info.
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#158657 - 02/05/2003 11:16 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: wfaulk]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Well, your reputation proceeds you, Bitt.
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#158658 - 02/05/2003 11:19 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
Well, I the Windows Media version doesn't work for me, either! If they're going to use a proprietary format, the least they could do is make it work, or for the love of God, let us download the damn clip! I don't care what format it's in, all embedded video sucks.
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#158659 - 02/05/2003 11:23 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: lopan]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Now, that's not fair. Independently I came up with this idea while I was in the pub a few weeks ago! Just because these guys have the temerity to actually go and implement something that seems like a good idea when you're drunk doesn't mean that they should get any kudos.


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#158660 - 02/05/2003 11:23 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
I don't really have a problem with the formats being proprietary. It's the fact that the players for Real and Quicktime are so horrible it prevents me from ever downloading any of them. I know WMP came with my OS, but how much sense does it make to provide sneaky, obnoxious programs for your video format? I think people forget that it isn't MS's fault if other programs just suck.
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#158661 - 02/05/2003 11:33 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Well, I the Windows Media version doesn't work for me, either! If they're going to use a proprietary format, the least they could do is make it work, or for the love of God, let us download the damn clip! I don't care what format it's in, all embedded video sucks.
Too true. If you could just download the thing and watch it when it's done, you wouldn't have all that herky-jerky video. Which is not to say that streaming doesn't have its place (real-time stuff, for instance), but it's not used as a convienience; it's used to prevent you from downloading it. Why they want to prevent that, I don't know, really.
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#158662 - 02/05/2003 11:45 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: lopan]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I don't believe it! We invented that in the pub a few weeks ago!!

(although ours was going to have a plasma screen built into the urinal).

Goes to show, there's nothing that hasn't already been thought of.

Rob

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#158663 - 02/05/2003 11:50 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: rob]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4181
Loc: Cambridge, England
Goes to show, there's nothing that hasn't already been thought of.
Goes to show, we shouldn't discuss technological breakthroughs in pubs in Cambridge...

Peter

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#158664 - 02/05/2003 11:56 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: peter]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Or at least pass around an NDA to the other patrons.
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#158665 - 02/05/2003 12:42 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
It's the fact that the players for Real and Quicktime are so horrible it prevents me from ever downloading any of them.
Agreed completely. The formats are what make you install the players, and the players are what really suck.
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#158666 - 02/05/2003 12:44 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
While I agree that RealOne sucks (even more than the previous Real players), its format sucks just as much, if not more.
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#158667 - 02/05/2003 12:48 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: wfaulk]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14497
Loc: Canada
The quicktime version plays fine in mplayer under Linux.

Cheers

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#158668 - 02/05/2003 12:52 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: mlord]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Is that the mplayer that uses Windows DLL codecs and has to be run on an x86 processor?

Or is the video not Sorenson encoded?

(To be honest, I haven't bothered building an application under Solaris that will play QTs, since it's largely pointless since 99% of all new QTs are Sorenson and would be unplayable for it.)
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#158669 - 02/05/2003 12:56 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: wfaulk]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14497
Loc: Canada
YEah, that's the one.

Xine also works fine.

Cheers

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#158670 - 02/05/2003 14:10 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: lopan]
DWallach
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
Heaven help us all, they wrote a paper about it. The "You're In Control" (Urine Control) project appears to have been a final project in a course titled "How To Make (Almost) Anything".

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#158671 - 02/05/2003 18:28 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: wfaulk]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
mencoder "You're In Control-LG.mov" -o "You're In Control-LG.mpg" -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=1800 -oac mp3lame -> You're In Control.mpg

See if that works
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#158672 - 03/05/2003 10:52 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: DWallach]
DWallach
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
It seems that Microsoft is now getting into the act as well.

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#158673 - 03/05/2003 11:00 Re: Technologically advanced Urinals! [Re: DWallach]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
ugh. i don't know about you, but i wouldn't exactly be the first in line to touch that keyboard, thanks.

--dan.

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