anyone got a bitmap or gif of the rio remote? i really don't want to download and lineup all those little gifs in the button guide. i figured it was about time someone ported the remote to omniremote for palmos.

How about the one in Charcoalgray99's web interface???

Just take a screenshot of the button guide. Alt-printscreen on win, Shift-command-4 on a mac, god only knows on XWindows.

-Mike

god only knows on XWindows.

In typical user-friendly X-windows style, it's:

import -w root screenshot.png 

.

X windows Slogans:
One thousand monkeys. One thousand MicroVAXes. One thousand years. X windows.
The environment of today... tomorrow! X windows.
Hindenburg. Titanic. Edsel. X windows.
If it works, it isn't X windows.
Incompatibility. Shoddiness. Uselessness. X windows.
To err is X windows.
X windows. Elevating brain damage to an art form.
X windows. Accept any substitute.
X windows. If it's broke, don't fix it.
X windows. If it ain't broke, fix it.
X windows. Form follows malfunction.
X windows. The Cutting Edge of Obsolescence.
X windows. The trailing edge of software technology.
X windows. Armageddon never looked so good.
X windows. Japan's secret weapon.
X windows. You'll envy the dead.
X windows. Making the world safe for competing window systems.
X windows. Let it get in YOUR way.
X windows. The problem for your problem.
X windows. If it starts working, we'll fix it. Pronto.
X windows. It could be worse, but it'll take time.
X windows. Simplicity made complex.
X windows. The greatest productivity aid since typhoid.
X windows. Flakey and built to stay that way.
X windows. Something you can be ashamed of.
X windows. 30% more entropy than the leading window system.
X windows. The first fully modular software disaster.
X windows. Rome was destroyed in a day.
X windows. Warn your friends about it.
X windows. Climbing to new depths. Sinking to new heights.
X windows. An accident that couldn't wait to happen.
X windows. Don't wait for the movie.
X windows. Never use it after a big meal.
X windows. Need we say less?
X windows. Plumbing the depths of human incompetence.
X windows. It'll make your day.
X windows. Don't get frustrated without it.
X windows. Power tools for power losers.
X windows. A software disaster of Biblical proportions.
X windows. Never had it. Never will.
X windows. The software with no visible means of support.
X windows. More than just a generation behind.
X windows. The ultimate bottleneck.
X windows. Flawed beyond belief.
X windows. The only thing you have to fear.
X windows. Somewhere between chaos and insanity.
X windows. On autopilot to oblivion.
X windows. The joke that kills.
X windows. A disgrace you can be proud of.
X windows. A mistake carried out to perfection.
X windows. Belongs more to the problem set than the solution set.
X windows. Ignorance is our most important resource.
X windows. Complex nonsolutions to simple nonproblems.
X windows. Built to fall apart.
X windows. Nullifying centuries of progress.
X windows. Falling to new depths of inefficiency.
X windows. The last thing you need.
X windows. The defacto substandard.
X windows. We will dump no core before its time.
X windows. One good crash deserves another.
X windows. A bad idea whose time has come. And gone.
X windows. We make excuses.
X windows. It didn't even look good on paper.
X windows. You laugh now, but you'll be laughing harder later!
X windows. A new concept in abuser interfaces.
X windows. How can something get so bad, so quickly?
X windows. It could happen to you.
X windows. The art of incompetence.
X windows. You have nothing to lose but your lunch.
X windows. When uselessness just isn't enough.
X windows. More than a mere hindrance. It's a whole new barrier!
X windows. When you can't afford to be right.
X windows. And you thought we couldn't make it worse.
X windows. You'd better sit down.
X windows. Don't laugh. It could be YOUR thesis project.
X windows. Why do it right when you can do it wrong?
X windows. Live the nightmare.
X windows. Our bugs run faster.
X windows. When it absolutely, positively HAS to crash overnight.
X windows. There ARE no rules.
X windows. You'll wish we were kidding.
X windows. Everything you never wanted in a window system. And more.
X windows. Dissatisfaction guaranteed.
X windows. There's got to be a better way.
X windows. The next best thing to keypunching.
X windows. Leave the thrashing to us.
X windows. We wrote the book on core dumps.
X windows. Even your dog won't like it.
X windows. More than enough rope.
X windows. Garbage at your fingertips.

Tell us how you really feel.

X windows Slogans:

ROFL Some of those are just beautiful.

Dude, OW!

    

 The X Consortium requests that the following names  be  used

     when referring to this software:



                                  X

                           X Window System

                             X Version 11

                     X Window System, Version 11

                                 X11

/Michael

Tell that to the hundreds of people who wrote the fortunes...

Oh yeah, and in your profile, where it says "Linux, Paintball" don't you mean "GNU/Linux, Paintball?"

4 U

Wrong remote. That is the famous "stun/kill" remote.

email me if you want the original vector artwork.

Tony - do you want to make this a download on riocar.org?

Hmmm. I don't find import on any of my systems. It's likely to be Gnome-specific or something. The real X way is:

xwd -root | xpr > screenshot.ps

Or you can leave out the `-root' and interactively select the individual window you want to capture.

Thanks, Bitt, your addendum shores up my indictment of "The X Window System, Version 11."

Ok how about this one.

oops... look at the next post

The implementation on Irix is just brilliant, though. SO easy to work with. Okay, there are some wonderfully esoteric flags/options, but hey...that's why we love Unix, right?

It's still better than pretty much any GUI system out there, though, at least in terms of features.

I always hated that red mouse cursor, though.

This one, (I had uploaded the wrong file)
Darn.. its alittle sideways but it's there

It's still better than pretty much any GUI system out there, though, at least in terms of features.

You're joking, right?

Show me one better.

Well let me first backtrack and understand your "more features" argument. Mind putting a sharper point on that? I don't want to make a case only to find out you weren't saying what I thought you were.

good cover yn0t_

The big one for me is the ability to remotely display windows. And VNC doesn't count, as that's not really the same thing. There are a number of other things as well. Extensibility, platform agnosticism, avoidance of integration into the OS, etc.

I will freely admit that there are a huge number of problems with X, from inconsistency (Xaw, Xm, Gtk, etc.) to usability (xwd | xpr), ugliness (bitmap-only font renderers) and any number of other things. But as far as being able to actually do just about anything, nothing else comes close (except, possibly, NeWS, which I haven't used in so long, I couldn't make a reasonable comparison).

people who wrote the fortunes...

Hmmm, maybe a bug report against the fortune package.... Nah, I ain't that religious about it.

And about GNU/Linux - I'm not a disciple of Stallman. Besides, the name would get ridiculously long if every involved party was to be recognized in the name. I can like and respect them anyway...

/Michael

Extensibility, platform agnosticism, avoidance of integration into the OS, etc.

Hmm. I for one think GUI integration into the OS is what could actually make Linux a viable option on the desktop. Apple and Microsoft GUI's are integrated into the OS, and they work. They're simple, they do what users want.

X is a big fat pig, and it, along with the many incompatible GUI layers on top of it (some of which you've mentioned) are the main reason why *NIX will never be able to make inroads on the desktop.

Really! It's not like anyone's pressing AT&T/SCO/whoever owns Unix these days to call it BSD/SVR4 just because it incorporates some BSD utilities and ideas.

It's likely to be Gnome-specific or something

import is part of the imagemagick package - lots of nice converters etc.

/Michael

I didn't know that ``making inroads on the desktop'' was what made something better.

I don't think that X is much more of a pig than MS Windows' GUI is. And I have the option of not running it.

Also, there are multiple depths of OS integration. There's MS Windows' and MacOS 9's idea, where it's pretty much one-and-the-same. There's MacOS X's, where it's the only one, but it's not 100% required to make the OS run. There's X's, where it's related to the OS no more than any hardware accessing application. And there's XFree86's, where you can have some hardware drivers in the kernel closely related to the GUI. I think that the correct approach is the middle ground where MacOS X and XFree86 are. (Not that their approaches are very similar -- convergent evolution, I suppose.)

I didn't know that ``making inroads on the desktop'' was what made something better.

Seems to me they're very related. Sure, marketing is involved, but the GUI is central to the user experience, and there is NO consistency in *IX user interfaces.