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#119374 - 04/10/2002 10:33 Chicken
BleachLPB
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So, I'm preparing some chicken for my lunch today and I started to wonder...

Why is white meat white, and dark meat dark? What makes it one color or another? I'm sure there is some reasonable explanation - like tissue type/composition or muscle type, but I don't have such an explanation.

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#119375 - 04/10/2002 10:36 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
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Tan lines....that's why the breasts are white
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#119376 - 04/10/2002 10:43 Re: Chicken [Re: JBjorgen]
Warp10
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ROFL!
Seriously, I think it's related to the function of the meat: muscles need more blood and are darker. Useless meat (e.g. fat) is bright.
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#119377 - 04/10/2002 10:57 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
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#119378 - 04/10/2002 11:29 Re: Chicken [Re: JBjorgen]
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daaaaahahaha! tan lines.

edit - i like white meat
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#119379 - 04/10/2002 12:16 Re: Chicken [Re: loren]
davec
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Well that makes me wonder why does pork turn white when cooked? It starts out red... Couldn't find the answer on starightdope.com, but I did find this question.
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#119380 - 04/10/2002 12:28 Re: Chicken [Re: loren]
BleachLPB
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Wow, answered my question. I'm satisfied

So, I guess that can explain why dark meat tastes different and has a different texture (and it is ohh so tasty)

The pork bit is interesting too - but perhaps one of the bigger color changes I've see (and to my surprise) was raw tuna vs cooked tuna. Raw tuna tastes good too!
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#119381 - 04/10/2002 12:28 Re: Chicken [Re: loren]
Warp10
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I should have based my answer on facts...
What I told is crap.
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#119382 - 04/10/2002 12:29 Re: Chicken [Re: slamface]
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daaaaahahaha! tan lines.

Yeah, that was a good one.

I always liked the old joke, "What's the difference between a gerbil and a hamster? There's more dark meat on a hamster." Reading the Straight Dope article, there might even be some truth in that one.
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#119383 - 04/10/2002 12:33 Re: Chicken [Re: Warp10]
BleachLPB
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I should have based my answer on facts...
What I told is crap.


D'oh. Just goes to show that you can butter about anything up to look like its valid. I learned how to do that in High school, and I perfected that in College.

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#119384 - 04/10/2002 12:34 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
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Speaking of tuna... is the stuff in the can cooked or raw? I've just never known which one it is, but I'm assuming cooked since it's darker than my favorite way of preparing tuna... Maguro!
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#119385 - 04/10/2002 12:36 Re: Chicken [Re: davec]
tfabris
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OMG, that manatee article had me laughing out loud: "I'm up for a luau. My only question is: what wine do I serve?"

I've got images of "The Freshman" stuck in my head now.
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#119386 - 04/10/2002 12:38 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
tfabris
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D'oh. Just goes to show that you can butter about anything up to look like its valid. I learned how to do that in High school, and I perfected that in College.

Heck, yeah. My entire philosophy is based around that. 90 percent of the FAQ is BS and no one ever notices.
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#119387 - 04/10/2002 12:44 Re: Chicken [Re: davec]
wfaulk
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Pork doesn't start out red. Pork chops start out kinda pinkish. The basic reason is the same for light/dark chicken meat. Ham and bacon, for example, are always red whereas pork chops are usually whitish. According to an amateur pig farmer friend of mine (I am in North Carolina, for God's sake), pork chops are also whiter because the pork industry dictates leeching some blood from pork chops to facilitate it being ``the other white meat''. But I don't know how much truth there is to that.
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#119388 - 04/10/2002 12:45 Re: Chicken [Re: davec]
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I'm fairly confident that the contents of a Tuna Can are cooked. It doesn't taste as good as raw, so by some form of thinking, it must be cooked. Its usually lighter too, except there are some darker pieces mixed in there... I wonder what that is about...

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#119389 - 04/10/2002 12:48 Re: Chicken [Re: wfaulk]
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I've had pork before that wasnt white/light. Maybe it was the marinade. Maybe... it wasn't actually pork, maybe it was a small furried critter that happened upon a car ti... Oh anyway...

What about the other Other white meat?
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#119390 - 04/10/2002 12:59 Re: Chicken [Re: tfabris]
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Dammit... all that wasted time reading and I thought those were facts!
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#119391 - 04/10/2002 12:59 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
wfaulk
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    Its usually lighter too, except there are some darker pieces mixed in there
Those are the chunks of dolphin.
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#119392 - 04/10/2002 13:03 Re: Chicken [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Those are the chunks of dolphin.

ROFLMAO
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#119393 - 04/10/2002 13:15 Re: Chicken [Re: wfaulk]
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Those are the chunks of dolphin

Reminds of a Southpark scene that went something like this:

Stan (or Kyle): Dude, dolphins are smart and friendly.
Cartman: Yeah and they're mighty tasty on rye bread with some mayonaise...
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#119394 - 04/10/2002 13:25 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
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Everyone here has almost definitely seen this before, as it tends to appear all over the internet. Yet, I still find it to be entertaining It's the Dark Sucker Theory.
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#119395 - 04/10/2002 14:16 Re: Chicken [Re: wfaulk]
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Those are the chunks of dolphin

OMG I laughed so hard my sides hurt.

Maybe some protein-rich, dolphin-fortified tuna salad will help...
It might alarm some of you that I'm a member of PETA...

People Eating Tasty Animals. I apologize if this offends anyone, but I could not resist...
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#119396 - 04/10/2002 14:29 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
Laura
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I think it's time to give up meat.
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#119397 - 04/10/2002 14:49 Re: Chicken [Re: Laura]
Ezekiel
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You gonna eat that? I'll take yours if you're giving it up.

-Zeke
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#119398 - 04/10/2002 15:19 Re: Chicken [Re: Ezekiel]
Laura
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*passes Zeke her tuna/dolphin sandwich*

Enjoy
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#119399 - 04/10/2002 16:29 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
genixia
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Find a Legal Seafood and try their Tuna Sashimi appetizer. Peppered Tuna Steak that's seen a glimpse of the grill before being sliced thin and served on a salad bed with plenty of wasabi - It's pretty amazing.

/me goes to find something to wipe the puddle of drool off the floor.



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#119400 - 04/10/2002 20:37 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
loren
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Those are the chunks of dolphin

AAAAAAAAAHAHAH. OH MAN. I haven't laughed that hard in a while... my sides hurt. What the hell is this shit leaking out of my eyes! Ahhh!!
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#119401 - 04/10/2002 21:32 Re: Chicken [Re: genixia]
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Hmmm, we have an L.S.F. downtown (as opposed to illegal?). I might have to give that place a try. I've seen that prepared before, where the tuna is barely seared for a few moments, but still retains that raw color in the middle <Homer simpson-esque drooling noises and gurgles>
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#119402 - 05/10/2002 03:57 Re: Chicken [Re: BleachLPB]
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Mmmm. Nice thick tuna steak from Sainsbury's, very very hot frying pan, sear for maybe 30-45s on each side, stays that translucent red rawness in the middle, squeeze of fresh lime juice, little heap of chopped coriander (cilantro) leaves on top, heaven.

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#119403 - 05/10/2002 07:24 Re: Chicken [Re: Ezekiel]
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A: You gonna eat that?

Q: What did Mike Tyson say to Vincent Van Gogh?

tanstaafl.

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#119404 - 05/10/2002 15:40 Re: Chicken [Re: tanstaafl.]
Ezekiel
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Ouch.

-Zeke
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#119405 - 05/10/2002 19:08 Re: Chicken [Re: wfaulk]
Tim
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In reply to:

pork chops to facilitate it being ``the other white meat''




I always referred to cats as being the other white meat... guess I was wrong.

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#119406 - 06/10/2002 08:26 Re: Chicken [Re: Tim]
tfabris
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I always referred to cats as being the other white meat... guess I was wrong.

I always referred to cops as the other white meat.
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