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#118296 - 28/09/2002 20:01 GPS deal, if you're lucky
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Staples is clearing out their Streetfinder Palm 3 GPS sleeves. They're $9.50. If you don't have a Palm 3, there's still a Rockwell Zodiac GPS board and an antenna inside.

Good luck finding them. I found 1 in the 3 Staples I visited today, still marked $60 but I asked for a price check and it was $9.50. Fair warning, none at Staples in Greensburg, New Kensington or Ross Township, PA

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#118297 - 28/09/2002 20:22 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: Daria]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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Does that GPS board support any of the protocols that Jan's code handles? A quick google suggests that the Zodiac uses a proprietary binary format, and not NMEA etc.
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#118298 - 28/09/2002 20:26 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: genixia]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Remember the bit about the Earthmate support I wrote for GPSd? Guess what an Earthmate is...

That said, the Zodiac supports both NMEA and Rockwell binary *except* on the Earthmate, as far as I know.

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#118299 - 28/09/2002 20:40 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: Daria]
genixia
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Ahh. That concurs with other information I've since found. I'll be visiting Staples soon then. I wonder how easy it is to hack the hardware to provide power and pull out an RS232 cable. Any ideas?
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#118300 - 28/09/2002 22:17 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: genixia]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
No clue. I opened it and looked (4 philips screws) but I think I'm going to need to take it further apart than I wanted to today.

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#118301 - 29/09/2002 01:53 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: genixia]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
If anyone finds one unit more than they're interested in themselves, that they would be willing to ship across the Atlantic - here's a very interested party...

/Michael
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#118302 - 29/09/2002 09:07 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: mtempsch]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
If I find more than one more I'll keep you in mind; The guy who built the board and half-container for my Trimble SVee6 is next in line... but I doubt I'll find any unless I bag a day of work and go on a road trip.

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#118303 - 29/09/2002 15:22 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: Daria]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Someone please clarify. What is meant by "Sleeve"?

My wife has a Palm3 that she never uses. Are you telling me that I could have a working GPS system simply by spending ten bucks and putting fresh batteries in her Palm?
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#118304 - 29/09/2002 15:36 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
mtempsch
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Yup...

Dunno if this is the same model, but the principle's the same...

/Michael
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#118305 - 29/09/2002 15:50 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: mtempsch]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Ah, this is the one. My local staples has one left, they have verified that it's $9.50 clearance, and I'm getting one. They're holding it for me.

Thanks for the information, this is actually pretty neat.
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#118306 - 29/09/2002 16:31 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
There's something I bought for my wife's Palm V a few weeks back for $40 that's more or less the same thing; Someone had it on sale. I got this to steal parts from.

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#118307 - 30/09/2002 06:04 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: Daria]
ShadowMan
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Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 558
Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
Will this work with a PALM IIIc? If so is there anyone willing to pick one up for me and ship it to Canada? I am willing to pay the price and a little bit on top for effort if you wish. I can send funds via PayPal.

Thanks!
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#118308 - 30/09/2002 08:35 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: ShadowMan]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
I think it says "won't work on IIIc" on the box, but mine isn't handy.

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#118309 - 30/09/2002 08:49 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: Daria]
ShadowMan
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Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 558
Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
Hmmm... the one shown in www.navmanusa.com/land/p_series/index.html is actually shown with a Palm IIIc.

Any resellers of that gear with duty free shipping.

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#118310 - 30/09/2002 08:52 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: Daria]
BAKup
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Registered: 11/11/2001
Posts: 552
Loc: Houston, TX
We don't have Staples here in Houston, (We have to use paper clips and duct tape to keep paper together) I was wondering if any kind soul would be willing to pick one up for me.
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#118311 - 30/09/2002 11:47 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: ShadowMan]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
I thought there was a different model of the unit for a IIIc. I will check when I get home.

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#118312 - 30/09/2002 22:49 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Boy, does one ever get what one pays for.

The software that comes with this thing is abysmal.
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#118313 - 30/09/2002 23:20 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
The hardware is worth more than $9.50. The software (to me) is throwaway.

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#118314 - 30/09/2002 23:44 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: Daria]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yeah, I understand that. It's just... Untile we figure out a way to interface this thing with the empeg, I'm stuck with the StreetFinder software as the only way I can get any use out of it.

I did manage to download one map to the thing, but it won't take any point-to-point directions. It asks me to insert the install CD then locks up as it churns the install CD nonstop.
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#118315 - 01/10/2002 00:02 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Untile we figure out a way to interface this thing with the empeg, I'm stuck with the StreetFinder software as the only way I can get any use out of it.

The Palm connector is a serial port, basically you should just need to figure out:
-pin mapping. I felt lucky with Google
-where to power it

I assume it already does RS232 pullup from TTL, so that should be it. And if not, well, underpowered serial port signal shouldn't cause you any problem, it just won't *do* anything.


Edited by dbrashear (01/10/2002 00:07)

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#118316 - 01/10/2002 00:09 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: Daria]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
The thing already has an adapter and/or cigarette lighter power supply, so even power isn't an issue.

I wonder if there's any third-party or open-source software already written for this GPS unit, available to run on the Palm.
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#118317 - 01/10/2002 00:10 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Yeah, but I'd rather power it from inline.

If someone makes a reverse Palm serial cable, just that should be sufficient...

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#118318 - 01/10/2002 12:43 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
Untile we figure out a way to interface this thing with the empeg, I'm stuck with the StreetFinder software as the only way I can get any use out of it

On the contrary, there's quite a bit of Palm software that will work with it. Here's a couple to check out:

GPS Pilot
Cetus GPS
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#118319 - 01/10/2002 13:04 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: svferris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Ooo, thank you. I was hoping there was third-party software that would work. That Rand Mcnally stuff is the pits.

(Although I have to say the map interface at the Rand McNally web site is really good. The resulting maps kick ass all over MapQuest. It's the 2-year-old Rand Mcnally PC software that makes maps for the Palm that sucks.)
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#118320 - 01/10/2002 13:35 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
svferris
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Yeah, I can't stand that software. But, the GPS Pilot stuff is pretty good. You can import your own maps.
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#118321 - 01/10/2002 21:29 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: svferris]
CommOri
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Registered: 30/12/2001
Posts: 83
Tony, that must've been the one I returned when I realized it would NOT work with the Palm IIIc. The IIIc has a different shape to it than the Palm III and this unit simply will not fit onto the IIIc.

In fact, my IIIc broke today. Or I should say, I broke it today. Useless piece of crap that it was, maybe I'll pull it outta the trash and break it apart for a GPS or robotics project. Of course, it's the display that broke...oh well..


Edited by CommOri (01/10/2002 21:36)

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#118322 - 01/10/2002 21:31 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: svferris]
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
Check this site for Palm GPS software:

http://celia.mehaffey.com/dale/pilotgps.htm
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#118323 - 02/10/2002 09:04 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: svferris]
jarredduq
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Registered: 27/09/2000
Posts: 89
Loc: California, USA
Checkout Mapopolis http://www.mapopolis.com

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#118324 - 02/10/2002 09:20 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: CommOri]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Tony, that must've been the one I returned when I realized it would NOT work with the Palm IIIc.

Heh. And what part of the "Will not work with the Palm IIIc" sticker on the box did you not understand?
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#118325 - 02/10/2002 13:40 Re: GPS deal, if you're lucky [Re: tfabris]
CommOri
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Registered: 30/12/2001
Posts: 83
The size. If I remember correctly, there were NO printed indicators on the box, only a post-manufacture sticker on the extreme lower left of the front of the box. Distinctly different from the spec list. Also, the sticker was about 1/8" high and was sort of peeling off before I got the box. The whole thing was a previous return anyway. I'm starting to believe that there aren't any "new" items in our local Staples. I think they just use it as an outlet for returns...

Of course, when I asked the employee at Staples about IIIc compatibility, he flipped over the box, looked at the spec list, and said, "Sure, it'll work."

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