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Weren't Sony and Philips talking of DVD players with HDD and TiVo functionality?

Here in Croatia Pioneer and Panasonic sell a number of HDD recorders with DVD burners. I don't know details (number of tuners etc), but it seems that some of them are networked. They sell for 700-1000€. The main drawback is lack of any program guide service, so you are back to VCR-like programming... Anyway, I am considering getting one.
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