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Still, we've got the great car stereos, why do we have to worry about what might have been?

Right, just make sure all of your future cars were built between the years of 1900-2003.

Your 'tongue in cheek' icon is entirely applicable to my post. I'm using irony here. I am, in fact, saying that fitting the empeg, and indeed any aftermarket DIN stereo, is going to be increasingly difficult given that it seems most car manufacturers are leaning toward their own custom, non-DIN solutions.

I hate to hijack this thread to start another 'When's the Mark III coming out' thread, but it seems to me that the large quantity of hardware and software hackers we have on this board should be more than capable of getting together and working on a project to produce an independent successor to our favourite empegs and Rio Cars. I'm not talking about licensing the design of the Mark II (I'd made enquiries and heard nothing back on this), which now seems to be pointless, nor about trying to copy the Mark II in any way. A lot of the ideas I've seen posted on this BBS in the wishlist and so forth are now far beyond the capabilities of a single in-dash player anyway. Let's strike out into fresh territory, and avoid the legal eagles at the same time. (After all, this is precisely what Hugo did all those years ago!). Heck, I'd act as a coordinator and general pusher if there was anyone else to coordinate and push.

But it seems to me that a lot of people are saying that, now that they've got their own little car player, they don't care what the rest of the world wants, or think of anything better.

Anyway, I'm still going to try fitting the Mark I into the Liberty...

Have fun,

Paul
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