when i said 'all the other issues can be overcome' i was actually referring to issues with the empeg - like installation, etc. I'm going to try emphatic and see how i like it. i've also been kind of disappointed that this community has seemed to have been languishing as of late...not a lot of action on the bbs, no recent software updates (before emphatic), etc. I was thinking if i bail out now, it's free since i can sell the empeg for the cost of the phatbox.

thanks again for the input, i'll do more research and get my empeg mounted again regardless then look at phatbox's feature set.