Nice! Firmware is Verison 1.03, needs updating, now just gotta find me a Null Cable modem and find the right upgrade file and im in... Btw my brother was planning on buying a convertible to put his empeg in, so he never installed it in his own vehichle.. my father on the other hand probably didnt grab the box with it when he picked up his belongings, i wasnt with him.... I will call up a roommate he had possible has it still.. thanks for info again! You guys rock.