I saw the sony hard disc player for the first time in person at bestbuy lastnight. I must say, its the uglyiest thing i've ever seen. I'm shocked that anyone would ever pay $1500 for it. I'm glad that the rio is EOL, even though my friends wish they could get one, i like having something that there is a limited ammount. The only time that i would wish that the empeg would go back into production is when both mine break